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    Hi,
    I don't have a papillon but have been researching the breed. One thing I am concerned about is the possibility of separation anxiety. I work from home so I'm especially concerned a papillon would become too clingy and dependent on me.

    I had a breed before that is considered independent minded, but also very attached to their family and wants to be with you as much as they can. In other words they will follow you inside the house most of the time, and even get underfoot "helping" you with things, but aren't overly demanding that you pay attention to them constantly. They'll casually nose you for pets and throw soggy toys in your lap when they're bored, but mostly they'd mind their own business. How does an average papillon compare to this, if they are already getting a couple of hours of one-on-one attention and exercise a day (I train in agility)?

    I ask because recently I've been getting the impression from people online that all papillons are needy velcro dogs, some of them bordering on extreme insecurity. Is that true? I never got that impression from all the papillons I met in real life. I would think that a very needy dog is anxious and needs training to be more confident. I'm not sure just HOW dependent papillons are compared to to other people-loving breeds. What level of dependency is considered normal and healthy for a papillon? I have had a suspicion that some papillons are so "sticky" because some owners like and encourage it? Just curious, I could be wrong? I feel that the dog I had before would have been super needy if I had not trained him to be left alone sometimes.

    Please let me know what you think.

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    Re: Question about papillon temperament

    Paps want to be where you are, doing what you are doing. My Mojo is happy to nap close by or in my lap if I am watching tv or at the computer, but the moment I move he is up and ready to go. He gets jealous if I hold the one of the cats and will run and get a toy and toss it at me to put down the cat. Never go to the bathroom unescorted. He will also play with the cats. He knows when it is time for me to go to work and will jump up into a chair and settle down when he sees me get my lunch bag and keys. If I leave without him any other time he will, according to my mother, whine and sit in front of the door. He does eventually settle down and behave normally. I can leave him in his crate at a show and he will watch me if I move away, then settle down and nap until it is time to get out. They are easy to train and get used to a routine fairly quickly.
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    Re: Question about papillon temperament

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    He gets jealous if I hold the one of the cats and will run and get a toy and toss it at me to put down the cat.
    LOL! That is hilarious.

    Really that sounds pretty normal to me.
    It's possible to train them not to follow you into the bathroom, if one would want that? I've heard of papillons scratching the heck out of doors if their person was on the other side. That's just a training issue right?

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    If he actually misses that I went in there, I will shortly have a nose pressed to the crack and sniffing loudly. 1/2 the time at least one of the cats has to follow me in too.
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    I 'd say Sophie is my shadow, when im home she right there next to me, always has to go to the bathroom with me, when i shower, she waits outside the bathroom door. I've had her since she was 9 weeks young, & i spoil her rotten, maybe thats why she's so clingy to me. but she'll go play with anyone in my family, including harassing the cat. I do work full time monday thru friday, & she's fine when im gone, she gets very happy when i get back though.

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    Thanks for the responses. Still sounds like normal behavior to me and not what I feared.

    Before I started searching online, I had the impression that papillons wanted to be with you as much as they can, but not necessarily be ON you at all times. Maybe it's a bit nitpicky but to me that's a big difference. Do they sometimes go off on their own in the house nearby, doing dog things? Or are they constantly looking to you for cues like they can't do anything without you?
    It sounds like Sophie will sometimes will do things without you (play with the cats)?

    I guess I'm looking for "a day in the life of a papillon".

    I've also heard that female papillons can be slightly more independent, but I'm not sure how true that is, or how big a difference it actually is. I was originally going for a male but now I'm unsure.

    Is it possible to tell how dependent or needy of affection a papillon is as a puppy? I'm not sure what to look for.
    I haven't yet found a breeder I can trust - I would want them to choose the puppy they thought was best for me.

    Humm... maybe I'll get more replies if I register.

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    Re: Question about papillon temperament

    We have a puppy who is almost six months old. We got him at 10 weeks. He has always slept with us. When he was younger he was glued to us. Cried when we left the house. Over time as he matured he has become more independent. He will still follow us around the house, sleep on our feet when on the computer, sit on my husbands shoulder like a parrot, and follow us into the bathroom (its a dog thing). Puzzle is one of the smartest dogs we have had. He seems to be easy to train ( what small amount I've done), but is very busy. Like the Welsh Springer Spaniels we had, he will try to anticipate what we want

    That said, he is now outside trying to catch a Junebug and digging holes.

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    Re: Question about papillon temperament

    Sophie does go & play with her toys by herself, & when im on the computer, she'll go in the living room & sleep on her blanket or play with her toys. She loves my cat, my cat doesnt love her though, she will sometimes go sleep next to her, & be nice, but thats only sometimes.
    my cat was my only pet for 6 years, i got sophie last december (2012).

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    Haha, "play" with the cat.

    Interesting. So it looks like papillons can have the temperament that I'm looking for, I just have to find the right one and make sure I get them used to my work routine at home (no jumping on me during work hours! lol). I found a few breeders that seem friendly and willing to talk about the breed so I'm going to ask them what they think as well.

    Also Puzzle is a great name.

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    Re: Question about papillon temperament

    Just to add one more "voice" here...

    Bravo will be one year old next month. I would describe him as being very committed to his job as a companion dog. He wants to be wherever we are...and doing whatever we are doing.

    He is not, however, clingy. He is content in his crate (but, like Mojo, will watch my every move until he falls asleep) or in the kitchen (if I ask him to stay there). He happily goes to daycare or boarding (when we travel).

    You can avoid creating separation anxiety by ignoring the dog for 5-10 minutes before you leave the house and for 5-10 minutes after you get home. Don't make a big fuss of coming and going....just do what you're going to do :-)

    This is a great breed....

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